Hallo
Wir überlegen uns evtl. einen T4 zu kaufen.
Nun hört man an verschiedenen Stellen, das dass Getriebe schon mehrfach unter 100.000 km gewechselt werden muss (ein Nachbar schon bei 30.00ß KM deren zwei !) und die Motoren halten auch nur max 150.000 KM
Frage an die Gemeinde :
Stimmt das ?
Wie sind Eure Erfahrungen?
Danke für die Antworten
Matze
Nein, stimmt nicht. wenns so wäre würden wir hier alle keinen T4 fahren.
Die lebensdauer hängt von Fahrweise, Wartung und Pflege ab... Und natürlich vom Motor.
Mein T4 hat nen 3,4D Motor mit 78PS. Wenn man den nicht quält macht der 400.000km und mehr. das getriebe übrigens auch.
Nicht umsonst heißt der Schiffsdiesel....
Wenn die Karosse durch ist wird der Motor ausgebaut und weiterverkauft... 
Aber auch die Benziner und TDIs können locker die 250.000 oder sogar 300.000 voll machen. Die Automatikgetriebe sind wohl nicht ganz so gut. Das weiß ich aber nur vom hörensagen.
Gruß
Jan.
3,4 D?
Aber amsonsten hasst Du 100%ig recht!!!
Also mein Multivan Allstar Bj. 1994, mit 2,4 d, AAB, hat zu Zeit 330000 km, bei 200000 km Zyl. Kopf erneuert, sons problemlos, getriebe original, vor 20000 km Kupplung neu, und Zahnriemen alle 70000 bis 75000 km neu( keine 120000 km, das tut richtig weh), olwechsel mache ich aale 7500 km, wiel sehr viel mit groessem Anhaenger fahre. Und noch etwas, ein Freun von mir Hat Caravelle 2,5 TDi ACV,Bj.1998 mit 580000 km (ex Taxi aus Danemark). Wichtig ist einfach, glaube ich, regelmaesig Servis machen, aber Motor oder auch was anderes kann auch bei ganz neuem Fahrzeug kaputt gehen. T 4 fahren macht menge Spass und ach wenn das kein TDi ist.
Gruss aus Prag VITEK
>Hallo
>Wir überlegen uns evtl. einen T4 zu kaufen.
>Nun hört man an verschiedenen Stellen, das dass Getriebe schon mehrfach unter 100.000 km gewechselt werden muss (ein Nachbar schon bei 30.00ß KM deren zwei !) und die Motoren halten auch nur max 150.000 KM
>Frage an die Gemeinde :
>Stimmt das ?
>Wie sind Eure Erfahrungen?
>Danke für die Antworten
>Matze
>
bei mir(2.4D):
erstes Getriebe ist mir bei 55TKM um die Ohren geflogen, dass zweite war bei 135TKM defekt. Motor ist soweit aber ok.
>Hallo
>Wir überlegen uns evtl. einen T4 zu kaufen.
>Nun hört man an verschiedenen Stellen, das dass Getriebe schon mehrfach unter 100.000 km gewechselt werden muss (ein Nachbar schon bei 30.00ß KM deren zwei !) und die Motoren halten auch nur max 150.000 KM
>Frage an die Gemeinde :
>Stimmt das ?
>Wie sind Eure Erfahrungen?
>Danke für die Antworten
>Matze
>
Je nachdem, wer damit fährt, haben die Motoren eine Lebenserwartung vom 10000km bis 1.000.000km.
Mein 75kW ACV ist jetzt bei 255000 km und läuft noch ohne Probleme bei normalem Ölverbrauch.
Dein Nachbar scheint demnach entweder Pech gehabt zu haben, oder er kann nicht Auto fahren! Man kann ein technisches Gerät auch regelrecht hinrichten, wenn man kein Gefühl dafür hat.
Tach Matze!
Ich fahre seit fast vier Jahren T4 Multivan Bj. 93 mit jetzt 260000km mit der ersten Maschine und dem ersten Getriebe... Motoröl brauche ich nur zum wechseln alle 10 000km 5,5liter 0 W 40... und meine deviese " IN ALLER RUHE WARMFAHREN "
Und Getriebeöl wechsle ich alle 100000km mit SAE 75 W90...
MFG KG
>Hallo
>Wir überlegen uns evtl. einen T4 zu kaufen.
>Nun hört man an verschiedenen Stellen, das dass Getriebe schon mehrfach unter 100.000 km gewechselt werden muss (ein Nachbar schon bei 30.00ß KM deren zwei !)
Beim AAB und mittlerer Belastung gute 200Tkm mit einem Getriebe. Bei starker belastung und sehr rüder Fahrweise so um die 80Tkm. Man kann sich also aussuchen, was das Getiebe aushält
>und die Motoren halten auch nur max 150.000 KM
Wo hat er das her? der Motor fleigt entweder um die 70TKm auseinander (zumindest beim Tdi mangels vernünftiger Wartung) oder er lebt 300TKm und länger. AAB's zB. gelten mit 200Tkm als gerade mal eingefahren Laß Dir also nicht so'nen Müll erzählen!
>Frage an die Gemeinde :
>Stimmt das ?
>Wie sind Eure Erfahrungen?
AAB Bj. 93, KR keine AHK, ATM/ATG bei 80Tkm, ATG bei 140TKM (beides offensichtliche Behandlungsfehler!). Motor klingt absolut i.O. und läuft auch sehr gut. Keine weiteren Probleme.
>Danke für die Antworten
>Matze
>
MfG
Roman
>Hehe, hab ein bischen aufgebohrt ;-)...
>Nene, ich meine natürlich 2,4D
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Hi,
wie die anderen schon schrieben, hängt der Verschleiß immer (!!!) vom Fahrer ab.
Ein TDI ist ausgelegt für 350.000 km. Der 2,4er Saugdiesel läuft normal auch so seine 500.000 km. Wenn der Motor natürlich vergewaltigt wird, durch überzogene Ölwechsel, Öl aus dem Baumarkt, Fahren mit Vollgas bei kaltem Motor, Digitale Fahrweise, also Vollgas oder Vollbremsung und auch sonst kein Gefühl für die Technik entwickelt, dann sind diese Werte, die Du nanntes, durchaus realistisch.
VW sagt was von Lebensdauerfüllung des Getriebeöls. Besser ist ein Tausch bei 100 bis 250.000 km. Besser dann Syntetik. Ich wechselte mein Getriebeöl bei etwa 260.000 km. Es war eigentlich noch ganz OK. Roch aber schon ein wenig sauer.
Beim Motoröl sollte man nicht an der falschen Stelle sparen. Lieber dem Motor etwas besseres gönnen. 15W 40 aus dem Baumarkt kann man vielleicht für Pmmes verwenden, aber in einen Motor gehört das Zeug nicht rein. Besser wäre dann 10W 40 mit entsprechender VW-Norm. Die TDIs sind durch den Turbo besonders empfindlich. Hier sollte nur Spitzenöl Verwendung finden. Ganz wichtig ist hier vor allem das Warm- und das noch wichtigere Kaltfahren des Turbo-Motors.
Nach Vollgas oder Fahren unter hoher Last darf man einen Turbo nie gleich abschalten. Entweder mit geringer Last abkühlen lassen oder mind 1 min im Stand nachlaufen lassen. Vor allem bei Autobahntankstellen!
Getriebe kann man schonen, wenn man langsam einkuppelt, bei geringer Last, dann langsam das Gaspedal durchtritt, so daß es zu wenig Lastschwingungen kommt.
Ein 78 PS Saugdiesel fühlt sich erst mal viel stärker in der Beschleunigung an, da er mehr am schwächeren Getriebe reißt. Der TDI wird künstlich im Drehmoment heruntergeregelt. Das schont das Getriebe. Fühlt sich aber schwächer an, was aber im direkten Vergleich zum 2,4er Saugdiesel nur ein müdes Lächeln hervorruft.
Ich kenne einige TDIs und 2,4er-Saugdiesel die schon weit über 400.000 km gelaufen sind.
Es hängt immer vom Fahrer ab!
Gruß
Sirkman
